2015 Corolla - Car Feels "Busy" At Highway Speeds

koby

New Member
#1
At highway speeds my corolla s feels like it takes a lot of steering input, not so much that im going to crash but enough that its noticeable. best way to describe it is a lot of swaying side to side and wandering. Maybe its just because i came from a lowered maxima though too. Inputs or thoughts anyone.
 
#2
At highway speeds my corolla s feels like it takes a lot of steering input, not so much that im going to crash but enough that its noticeable. best way to describe it is a lot of swaying side to side and wandering. Maybe its just because i came from a lowered maxima though too. Inputs or thoughts anyone.
I have the same issue. I just gave up on it for the time being. 4 dealer visits and they say its perfectly fine. I just decided to chalk it up to 3 things: Heavy winds blowing the car around, car is too high, or ****ty all season tires.
 

fishycomics

Super Moderator
#4
EPS is one, the tires is another, Time will wear this in, how much, over a Year. Our 2010 was all over the road, weighted down worse. The electronics can possibly be adjusted to compensate for the drift? Our 2013 totally different.

We changed tires, to the same and no longer the drift, but at given times taking a turn. less wheel movement, the car slides nicely.

In order to get used to the EPS, make sure you find the right tire pressure, and wheels do not show wear. the slightest pressure off will make the EPS feel drifty.
 
#7
This is a common complaint with the newer Corolla's and apparently has something to do with the electric power steering. I suspect an over-assist situation.

You paid thousands and thousands of dollars for a brand new car. I recommend you take it back to the Toyota dealer and make them correct the situation. If they don't, if many states you can use the Lemon Law where the dealership has three chances to correct a situation with your car and if they don't, you can force them to take the car back and give you all your money back.

Below is a link to a sticky thread on here about the Lemon Law -

New Car Lemon Laws - State By State
 
#8
Coming from a 13 Civic I found the steering on the Corolla Eco actually " less busy", not requiring as many small adjustments and providing better road feel. It was one of the things that sold me on the car. Mine is a 2014 though, and probably has different tires than yours. Electronic steering control has generated a lot of these complaints.
 
#9
You'll get used to the EPS and notice yourself making less inputs. At least I have.
Same experience here, after ony a few hundred miles, plus :

EPS is one, the tires is another, Time will wear this in, how much, over a Year. Our 2010 was all over the road, weighted down worse. The electronics can possibly be adjusted to compensate for the drift? Our 2013 totally different.

We changed tires, to the same and no longer the drift, but at given times taking a turn. less wheel movement, the car slides nicely.

In order to get used to the EPS, make sure you find the right tire pressure, and wheels do not show wear. the slightest pressure off will make the EPS feel drifty.
All this (especially tire pressure) and sometimes new tires need a bit of "setting". Some tire manufacturers even use that one for marketing, saying that their gum include a thin temporary layer to offset that. Not that in necessarily work but if they market it than it must be a spread perceived problem. Plus OEM tires aren't always the best.
And yes, many reviewers (often haters) that were trashing the imprecise steering of previous corolla models note that it is way better in the new one, albeit still a little numb in the center (according to some)
 
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koby

New Member
#10
It was a 19 thousand dollar car im not expecting perfection. Sounds like i need to get used to the eps. Im looking into the trd sway bar and these tires wont be on here for long with the amount I drive so im not terribly worried about it. Thanks for the help though
 

koby

New Member
#11
This is a common complaint with the newer Corolla's and apparently has something to do with the electric power steering. I suspect an over-assist situation.

You paid thousands and thousands of dollars for a brand new car. I recommend you take it back to the Toyota dealer and make them correct the situation. If they don't, if many states you can use the Lemon Law where the dealership has three chances to correct a situation with your car and if they don't, you can force them to take the car back and give you all your money back.

Below is a link to a sticky thread on here about the Lemon Law -

New Car Lemon Laws - State By State
Definitely not that bad I just tend to analyze the hell out of things and notice small things nobody really picks up
 
#13
It was a 19 thousand dollar car im not expecting perfection. Sounds like i need to get used to the eps. Im looking into the trd sway bar and these tires wont be on here for long with the amount I drive so im not terribly worried about it. Thanks for the help though
The price is irrelevant. A new car is not suppose to have a defect. And no one has to get used to a defect.
But one might have to get used to a new car. (I remember having almost "sudden acceleration" when I first try the Corolla because the gas pedal felt different from my usual ride).
Then check the obvious : tire pressure, tire conformity, alignement. Those should be checked by your dealer.
Then give some time for the new tires to "settle".
There is a middle between accepting whatever and claiming a new car.
 
#14
THANK GOD FOR GOOD OLE FLUID DRIVEN POWER STEERING, Thats just about my favorite thing about my tacoma. It does just what I ask it to do. i had a 2011 corolla that would change lanes without any input from me.
 

koby

New Member
#15
The price is irrelevant. A new car is not suppose to have a defect. And no one has to get used to a defect.
But one might have to get used to a new car. (I remember having almost "sudden acceleration" when I first try the Corolla because the gas pedal felt different from my usual ride).
Then check the obvious : tire pressure, tire conformity, alignement. Those should be checked by your dealer.
Then give some time for the new tires to "settle".
There is a middle between accepting whatever and claiming a new car.
Everything checks out and it has 7,000 miles on ot already. I'm thinking it's just the switch from driving a lowered car for so long to this that had me over thinking things
 
#16
The price is irrelevant. A new car is not suppose to have a defect. And no one has to get used to a defect.
But one might have to get used to a new car. (I remember having almost "sudden acceleration" when I first try the Corolla because the gas pedal felt different from my usual ride).
Then check the obvious : tire pressure, tire conformity, alignement. Those should be checked by your dealer.
Then give some time for the new tires to "settle".
There is a middle between accepting whatever and claiming a new car.
One of the most sensible and reasonable posts I've seen on "defects". Thank you.
 
#17
I came from hydraulic power steering, EPS does take a little getting used to, but when you can make a u-turn with your pinky, it does have its shiny moments.

Oh yeah, and I've gone through enough power steering pressure line changes to hate hydraulic steering (and enough 80s Fords that would constantly groan, even when the entire system was replaced).
 

fishycomics

Super Moderator
#18
keep any electronics away from the steer column, that may make the unit fail. like your cellphone, go figure.

Yes you must get used to the feel. Like AWD, if you never driven one, you will not be used to it.

But the defect is not yet enough, for a recall of these center column EPS sys
 

Kev250R

This is my other car
#19
(and enough 80s Fords that would constantly groan, even when the entire system was replaced).
Me too DK. I chased the groaning problem on a '00 Mustang. Eventually I was told that the system had to be bled a very specific way and that would prevent it, though if the pump was already making the noise then nothing would change that. I never pursued it as the car had a long-list of other problems and went away a short time later.

Kevin
 
#20
I'm going back to the dealership for the 5th (i think) time for this issue. Last time the service advisor told me that it is perfectly normal for cars to wobble/drift at certain speeds...lmao what a ****ing load of horse ****.
 
#21
I'm going back to the dealership for the 5th (i think) time for this issue. Last time the service advisor told me that it is perfectly normal for cars to wobble/drift at certain speeds...lmao what a ****ing load of horse ****.
Have you had them ride or drive the car with you? I would demand that and to also do the same with another model on the lot. That response you got is pretty outlandish. Is it enough to consider a safety problem? Because that WOULD get into the area of SIGNIFICANT defect where lemon law would apply.
 
#22
To me, when a car wobbles at high speeds, it sounds like the alignment needs to be adjusted. Maybe needs some slight toe in for higher speeds to counter the natural toe out from force. I had this problem in my FR-S when I told the guy I wanted some slight toe in for the rear and he put it at 0. Once speeds hit 75-80, the car started to wobble and I felt like it wanted to veer off the road and crash. Got it adjusted and now I can go probably a lot faster and stay in a straight line. Granted these are two completely different cars, the FR-S also has EPS.

This probably has to do with the tires more than anything. EPS is a great thing and I don't see myself going back to the traditional PS pump my Camaro had. Those were dang noisy!

The 2014 Corolla LE I drove for two weeks didn't seem to drift off, but maybe I'm just used to EPS already.
 
#23
To me, when a car wobbles at high speeds, it sounds like the alignment needs to be adjusted. Maybe needs some slight toe in for higher speeds to counter the natural toe out from force. I had this problem in my FR-S when I told the guy I wanted some slight toe in for the rear and he put it at 0. Once speeds hit 75-80, the car started to wobble and I felt like it wanted to veer off the road and crash. Got it adjusted and now I can go probably a lot faster and stay in a straight line. Granted these are two completely different cars, the FR-S also has EPS.

This probably has to do with the tires more than anything. EPS is a great thing and I don't see myself going back to the traditional PS pump my Camaro had. Those were dang noisy!

The 2014 Corolla LE I drove for two weeks didn't seem to drift off, but maybe I'm just used to EPS already.
Yeah I don't mind the EPS either in the Corolla, to me its calibrated just right. BTW, how much toe in did you get in your FR-S that it made such a difference?
 
#25
SO! I spoke to their alignment specialist. I told him what the problem was and he took it out himself and hit the speeds I told him. He returned and checked everything out. Turns out...I am not used to the EPS. lmao
 

koby

New Member
#26
So part of my problem may have been a very slow leak. Went out to my car yesterday and found d a nail in the tire but it was still aired up enough to not notice it without closer inspection. Ill update after today, currently waiting for it to be patched now.
 
#28
So, finally you folks gave me the answer. I have a 2015 Corolla lease (got in July 2015). This "noisy" steering has been an issue from the start. Been to the dealer 8 times. It's so bad I avoid highway speeds on windy days. They keep re-aligning the thing. I baby that stupid car. I have hit nothing. Can the front end be that fragile? I don't think so. Today (3/10/17) they found one wheel was out by 0.1 degrees. They said that was major and it would fix the problem. HA! Nice try. I can't wait for the lease to run out so I can be rid of it. Other than that it's an OK car, especially when the AC decides to work.
 

fishycomics

Super Moderator
#29
Re- read the post: I had returned the 2013, now purchased a 2016, and when the wind hits the car drifts. it has been improved, Like I said early on. I wish you the best , about your concerns. I will add this into the suggestions;

If you're on a road that has to much wear and tear. and get to a open and quiet road never been riden on. the car will preform much better
 
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