EBC Stage 5 Kit Front and Rear Brakes

Discussion in '2014 + Toyota Corolla' started by Donabed Kopoian, Mar 19, 2016.

  1. Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    Here they are! Can't wait until I can bed them in and see their potential.

    One thing, if you do this install, get the special tool for rear calipers piston compression (they sell them at O'Reillys and mount to a 3/8" ratchet), mount the hardware without the rotor and pads, then, while squeezing as hard as you can on the back and front, turn the ratchet clockwise. If you try and do this without mounting the hardware, it's close to impossible.

    Before:
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    Close up of Spider Cracks (and only at 26,000 miles! A new record!):
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    Fronts:
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    Rears:
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    Behind Wheel:
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    Behind Wheel (Closer but more Blurry):
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    I had these on my '08 Matrix and they were awesome. Now the long wait during break-in...
     
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  3. trdriky91

    trdriky91 New Member

    Wow very nice. Can't wait until I get to upgrade my brakes. Never used EBC brakes but after seeing these maybe I'll go for it. In my pass cars I always used STOP TECH.
     
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  4. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    Looks nice, but other than replacing messed up brakes like you did, can you really tell much of a difference without going to a Big Brake Kit? I've never used anything but oem myself. Yes, I'm a noob here. LOL
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    In my '08 Matrix, the difference was huge.

    No verdict yet on these. I need to do 200 miles of easy city driving (so about 1500 miles for me since I'm mostly freeway), then do 20-60-20 5 times to fully bed in the pads. Then I can see what they can do.

    I think I'll see more of a difference, since this car is 4 wheel disc, while the Matrix had rear drum (so I could only upgrade the fronts).
     
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  6. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    Awesome! Let us know after you break them in! If it's good ill have to do the same
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

  8. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    Hey man I don't mean to be a nuisance but how have those brakes been holding up? I go canyon driving a lot so brakes are really important for me and I've been looking for an upgrade for a while, I just don't know what to get. I'm kinda torn between EBC yellowstuff and redstuff. Is the yellowstuff's brake dust really as bad as they say it is? I would like a reduction in dust to keep those alloys lookin nice but performance is most important of course. I've only used OEM brakes. Thanks
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    Still have 350 miles to go before I can bed them in, but I have pushed them a little and so far, I'm happy.

    Yellowstuff do dust, but typically low-dust pads have a poor cold bite and tend to glaze more easily. If you drive spirited, you want to avoid low-dust pads.
     
  10. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    ah okay sounds good. Thanks!
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    So, I figured they were ready to bed in.

    760 miles of about 70/30 freeway/city, plus I deal with traffic on occasion (EBC recommends 200 city).

    I'll just say that my 60 m.p.h. to 20 m.p.h. time is about 3x quicker than my 20 m.p.h. to 60 m.p.h. time.

    Definitely stops like nothing.
     
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  12. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

    We like ebc pads and use redstuff. How does the more aggressive yellowstuff compare to redstuff if you have any personal experience with redstuff?
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    Yellowstuff stops far better than redstuff and the cold bite is great, but you will wear your rotors out and dust like crazy with them on.

    Also, I'm probably going to be due to replace the fronts in the next 20,000 miles or so. If you drive spirited like I do, you'll wear the fronts down in roughly 30,000 miles. I have about 6,000 miles on them and already have noticeable wear, but I don't mind spending the money to have some fun when driving.
     
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  14. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    How does the redstuff compare to the oem pads? I still have the oem pads and rotors on my car.
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    Redstuff will still be far better than OEM.

    The OEM Toyota brakes are pretty bad and they do not hold up well to abuse at all.
     
  16. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

    "Far bettere ..." Thanks dk, now I know. Sounds like I'll stick with red. Wife loves them on her 2004 LE and
    so do I, but curious whether to upgrade my 2015 S+ to yellow. I do like the ultra low dust of 2015 oem, but
    willing to trade off low dust of red for better all around performance. Sounds like yellow throws some particles!
     
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  17. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

    Agree with dk. We installed redstuff on stock rotors and saw big improvement..better initial bite but what is most impressive is the endless pedal. The more you step, the quicker you stop. The pads have a seemingly endless reserve for regular street use. Very confidence inspiring.

    FWIW, redstuffs are sensitive to needing a smooth rotor and we had some bed-in noise and pulsation issues with resurfacing. I eventually upgraded the rotors to Centric hi carbon cryogenics with a new set of redstuffs and this package performs great. No noise, low dust, great bite, and smooth seamless stops with no pulsating feedback.
     
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  18. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

    Clarify...my upgrade above was on a 2004 LE front rotors. Going to redstuff on all four corners of 2014-2016
    would be a hoot....
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    Yeah, it's hard to keep the wheels clean but worth the stopping power you get.
     
  20. DjAnnexAlpha

    DjAnnexAlpha New Member

    Love the new rotors and pads, got a link for the kit?
     
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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

  22. DjAnnexAlpha

    DjAnnexAlpha New Member

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    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    It is, but worth it!
     
  24. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    @Donabed Kopoian
    Hey, now that my OEM brakes are finally ready to go (thanks to lots of canyon driving), I'm looking at the EBC Redstuff pads and the EBC dimpled and slotted rotors.
    For the pads, front: DP31791C, and rear: DP31947C.
    For the rotors, all I can find is the size "GD7475".
    My question is, would the rotors of this size fit both the front and rear brakes or just the front. I can't find any information online about whether the corolla's front and rear brake rotors are the same size.
    Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-GD7475-Dimpled-Slotted/dp/B003EOLM1A
     
  25. Chris Denton

    Chris Denton New Member

    Anyone have a link for the Redstuff?
     
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  26. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

  27. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member


    Each axle has different size rotor....in both thickness and diam. I use redstuff on my 2004 Corolla. Best pads ever used in 40 years of driving. Will use on my 2015 S+ when time comes. Carid dot com has a nice
    Matched set of ebc hi carbon rotors and redstuff pads for about $400 for all 4 wheels. Good deal IMO.
     
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  28. Chris Denton

    Chris Denton New Member

  29. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    I think so. I don't see anything that says otherwise. It just says that these are the sizes for a 2014 Corolla (amazon). I'm also curious because I'm using OEM calipers too.

    Also, what I want is the EBC dimpled and slotted rotors for all 4 wheels like @Donabed Kopoian has in his original post, along with the EBC RedStuff pads on all 4 wheels. Every kit I can find either has RedStuff with a different rotor or the right rotors and some other pads.

    I'd like to get them individually but I can't seem to find the EBC dimpled and slotted rotors for the rear wheels anywhere!!! I've found the correct pads and front rotors, just missing the rear. But I can't find it anywhere!

    If anyone has a link or part number please send it hahaha this is driving me nuts!

    Links that I have so far:

    Front EBC RedStuff Pads: DP31791C: https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-DP31791C-Redstuff-Ceramic/dp/B001KQA94K
    Rear EBC RedStuff Pads: DP31947C: https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-DP31947C-Redstuff-Ceramic/dp/B002806VAS
    Front EBC dimpled and slotted rotors: GD7475: https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-GD7475-Dimpled-Slotted/dp/B003EOLM1A
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2017
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  30. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

    image.jpeg Carid dot com shows 31791c as redstuff front pad part number....
     
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  31. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

    Never mind...I thought you were looking for pads....
     
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  32. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

    Carid dot com shows 31791c as redstuff front pad part number....
     
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  33. Floridapizzaman

    Floridapizzaman New Member

  34. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    Yeah they just took off the DP at the front i guess. Everywhere else online its listed as DP31791C. Thanks though!
     
  35. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

  36. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    To update my list of links for my brake upgrade:
    What do you think?

    Front EBC RedStuff Pads: DP31791C: https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-DP31791C-Redstuff-Ceramic/dp/B001KQA94K
    Rear EBC RedStuff Pads: DP31947C: https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-DP31947C-Redstuff-Ceramic/dp/B002806VAS
    Front EBC dimpled and slotted rotors: GD7475: https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-GD7475-Dimpled-Slotted/dp/B003EOLM1A
    Rear EBC dimpled and slotted rotors: GD7477: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002Y0MBB...TF8&colid=3CLFEU1GYGBHU&coliid=I3ATJJSMAKJ6E3
     
  37. OP
    Donabed Kopoian

    Donabed Kopoian 6 Speed Master

    No! Rears are always different from the front. Rear discs are typically solid with no venting vanes in-between the plates. The fronts also have a larger diameter.

    If you are doing the rear brakes, you'll want a rear-caliper tool that locks in a 1/4" or 3/8" ratchet. Remove the rear calipers, rotors, and pads, then reattach the calipers - without the pads or rotor - to the spindle. Use a 6" extension and ratchet on the rear-caliper tool and press in hard while turning clockwise. If you try to bottom them out without them attached to the spindle, you won't get the piston to budge.
     
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  38. TheDrainnoodle

    TheDrainnoodle New Member

    Great advice! Thanks a lot!
     

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